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Texas Congressman Michael McCaul calls North Korea one of the most complex, challenging foreign policy issues of its time, that nuclear power cannot be taken away from those with it, such as in Pakistan with the economy network proliferating in Iran and North Korea, not leaving a whole lot of good options on the table. McCaul discusses regime change, opening channels for people to defect, knowing China is the strongest country to deal with the regime, but seeing satellite photographs after United Nations sanctions were adopted. McCaul calls defector Thae Yong-ho a courageous individual, asking him what military options would be on the table that Defense Secretary Jim Mattis had warned against and the aftermath of the military option for the Peninsula. Thae answers that the North Korean regime learned about loopholes in the military alliance between South Korea and America, and the claws of compulsory involvement in the alliance that China would act militarily, which he calls a very loose clause and if the treaty expired, the alliance would disappear. Thae says lessons were learned about the 1950 Acheson line of defense, nuclear testing by the Soviet Union from 1949, the red line on the 38th parallel between South Korea and Japan, the Chinese Communist Party succeeding and driving American forces out of Taiwan in 1979 by completing its intercontinental ballistic missile program, lessons that once technologies are acquired that can attack America they can prevail, adding that America and South Korea would win in a war resulting from any preventive or surgical strike, but there were tens of thousands of North Korean artilleries and short range missiles ready to fire at any moment along the demarcation line and North Korean officers are trained to press the button without any further instructions from the general command.