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Good Friday Agreement 25th anniversary: Hillary Clinton, Tony Blair, Bill Clinton and Bertie Ahern panel discussion; Part 11 of 14 NORTHERN IRELAND: Belfast: Queen's University Belfast: INT Hillary Clinton (Former US Secretary of State and University Chancellor) chairing panel discussion SOT Q: CAN EACH OF YOU (TONY BLAIR, BERTIE AHERN) DESCRIBE WHAT THAT LAST WEEK OF NEGOTIATIONS WAS LIKE (continued from Part 10) Tony Blair (Former Prime Minister) speaking SOT - It's a really important thing; if you can't have that properly frank exchange of where you are in the whole thing, people either stick in their positions or they don't trust you enough / we were in this terrible building, the facilities were terrible; every so often, Mo (Mowlam) who often had a sense of humour about these things, when things were really grim, she'd say 'you're really depressed aren't you', I'd say 'yeah', and she'd say 'time for the women's coalition' (laughter) / it was a strange psychology and in the end when I had the final call with David Trimble, and we just went for it / it was a combination of many things, but in the end, you can have whatever technical agreement you like, but if the spirit is not sitting alongside it, it will never work Bertie Ahern (Former Taioseach) speaking SOT - Well can I thank Tony for remembering my mum, because that was difficult / I think we'd set out that last week; it was going to be intense, a huge range of meetings / like everything, you plan the week out, and by the time you get to Monday you realise everything's difficult / my own civil servants rang me when I was coming out of church and said 'listen, we have to talk to you, George Mitchell is losing his hair', but he was definitely fed up with everybody / they said you're going to have to get up here, so we worked it out / I went back up early in the morning, I met Tony, we met in Hillsborough, Tony gave me a lovely breakfast, I went to calm down David Trimble / I remember going to G...