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Former US Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch answers a question a during a conversation with Hamilton Lugar School of Global and International Studies Dean Lee Feinstein during the conference on America's Role in the World at IU. Yovanovitch was presented with the Richard G. Lugar Award. rough transcript: So I thought I would begin by giving you a sense of our well informed audience. So if I were to hand out a map of the world map of the world to test any single person in this audience, they would be able to find Ukraine with no problem. But it but it raises a serious question. And let's just say hypothetically, a very senior member of the State Department were to say something like, no one cares about Ukraine. How would you respond? You spent two tours in Ukraine, including US ambassador of course, but but based on your experience there, why should Americans care about Ukraine? What are the geostrategic signet? What's geosynthetic significance of Ukraine Why does it matter to Americans? Yeah? Well, that's a simple question. And I'll do my best to answer it. I think there are many different ways that that one can answer that question. So, back in the cold war or at war, during the Cold War, it was a bipolar war with Russia and the United States, and the dissolution of the Soviet Union, all of a sudden, 15 new countries, it seemed that they were on their way, to some of them, at least, to becoming democracies, market economies. And then we had the early 2000s, with 911. And some of the other developments that we saw there, and we now seem to have a bit of a muddle. We don't know exactly what we're doing. It's an inflection point in our history where we don't have the Cold War and the institutions of that work. Founded during that time, whether they are on the political security side or the economic side, to bring a sense of order to how the world does its business