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GREEN BAY, WISCONSIN - FEBRUARY 25 14:57:13 I dont rmemebr when it was when i called her well i called her after i ran into her at the cacino i caleld on her birthdy ai knew it was in may and evyer 3/4/5 years id thingk about her and say happy birthday happy birthday i know its in many and i didnt know when. we were friends for 40 years. run into her husband all the time got to talk to her all the time. her and her husband and the kids. jsut friends. interview by PI called cahty once a year. no i did not call her once a year. anyone esle youd call on thier birhtda> no just her. i dont hardly know other guys birthdya. family mebevr do you call them regurally. but you called kathy. yes during may. within two weeks. I dont rememrb wehn it eas i think it was in june i dont remember if i met her first at the cacino and then i calle dher agagin i dont knwo when it was i dont know how long we met again for coffee and then we started seeting each other form july or august on. i dont remmeber exactly whenit was. if ther are cacin records in her name and your name. that woudl have neen it. thats before 4th of july yea alrught 21. 2 weeks after vkiiy was missing. you gus exchange phone calls and ther are a lot of phone calls did you give her your phoen number yes i hthink she had it if she said she didnt have it that day would she be wrong? well when did she have the durgery jun july before that simetimes maybe almsot a year? how long did it take contacting kathy before sexually active. at least a month yes. consistant woudlnt be saying seeing weekly. at the time does your fam know. i dont know. 15:02:37 (Footage by Law&Crime via Getty Images)